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Biology and Genetic Engineering explained by someone who's done it</h2>
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<h4> This site is dedicated to people like Pim Stemmer who says "People
who continue to
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Last updated Feb 8 2003
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<H3> Click on the questions to go directly to the relevant commentry: </H3>
<P><A HREF="#gmo"> What is a GMO? </A>
<BR><A HREF="#dna"> What is DNA? </A>
<BR><A HREF="#bases"> How many DNA bases are there in a typical organism? </A>
<BR><A HREF="#gene"> What is a gene? </A>
<BR><A HREF="#humangenes"> How many genes does a human have? </A>
<P>
<BR><A HREF="#protein"> What is a protein? </A>
<BR><A HREF="#engineering"> What is genetic engineering? </A>
<BR><A HREF="#why"> Why are organisms being genetically engineered? </A>
<BR><A HREF="#genome">Does knowing the human genome mean we know all
about how a human being works? </A>
<BR><A HREF="#junk"> What is junk DNA </A>
<P>
<BR><A HREF="#examples"> What are some examples of products made
from genetically engineered organisms? </A>
<BR><A HREF="#whoasked">If we eat it, how come we were never asked about
this sort of stuff?</A>
<BR><A HREF="#mistakes">Have there been serious mistakes resultant
from genetic engineering?</A>
<BR><A HREF="#coffee">So how is this sort of thing going to effect my life
- my coffee will taste the same, won't it?</A>
<BR><A HREF="#misses">Any near misses?</A>
<P>
<BR><A HREF="#aidsvaccine">There's a group in the Netherlands who, as of
May 2001, say they engineered a strain of live HIV which be a good vaccine
against AIDS, what's your take on this?</A>
<BR><A HREF="#similarity">What is substantial similarity?</A>
<BR><A HREF="#legislation">What sort of people are making the legislative
decisions about GMOs?</A>
<BR><A HREF="#flavr">What was the Flavr Savr tomato?</A>
<BR><A HREF="#spidercow">There's a cow out there which makes spider silk in
its milk. Is this a good idea?</A>
<BR><A HREF="#weird">What sort of weird GM things have you heard of?</A>
<P>
<BR><A HREF="#ecosys">Can give some examples of bad effects a GMO might
have in an ecosystem?</A>
<BR><A HREF="#heirloom">Some people say we've been modifying plants for
generations and that GMOs are no different. Is this correct?</A>
<BR><A HREF="#paddocks">What sort of modifications are already in the paddocks?</A>
<BR><A HREF="#roundup">What's a roundup-ready crop?</A>
<BR><A HREF="#glyphos">What effect to glyphosate resistance genes have on
the environment?</A>
<P>
<BR><A HREF="#lies">Some biotech companies say that they didn't add genes
in or take genes out, yet they have modified the organism anyway, how does
that work?</A>
<BR><A HREF="#whoknows">There's an idea that a protein will do only one
task, and that since it only does that task that it can be relied upon
only to do that task and therefore is a known quantity. Is this a fair
statement?</A>
<BR> <A HREF="#terminator">There's this stuff out there called terminator
technology (TT). It is promoted because it stops GM plants from
propagating. Does it have any long-term consequences for the stability of
the global food supply?</A>
<BR><A HREF="#autonomy">What about terminator technology's effects on the
autonomy of farmers?</A>
<BR><A HREF="#exorcist">What's Exorcist technology, how does it work and
does it really mean you can have GM-free GM crops?</A>
<BR><A HREF="#starving">Are genetically modified crops going to feed the
starving millions?</A>
<BR><A HREF="#immuno">Are genetically modified organisms going to
<B>eradicate disease?</B></A>
<BR> <A HREF="#idiots"> Universities are the main institutions where
molecular biologists are trained. Do university level courses have any
components which inform young scientists about the long term consequences
of molecular modification?</A>
<BR><A HREF="#freesoft"> There is a concept called "free software" - how
does that tie into genetic modification?</A>
<BR><A HREF="#goodstuff"> You complain a lot about GM, do you think
there's anything good about it?</A>
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<A NAME=gmo></A>
Q: what is a GMO? <br>
A: a GMO (genetically modified
organism) is any lifeform which has had its genetic material -DNA -
deliberately changed by humans so as to accentuate or minimise particular
aspects of a living organism, usually for commercial reasons but also
sometimes for research reasons.
<p> <A NAME=dna></A>
Q: what is DNA?
<br>A: DNA is short
for deoxyribose nucleic acid. In each cell of a living thing you will find
a long, long strand of this stuff, which is a sequence of sugar molecules
and phosphate groups. DNA strands usually exist as pairs of these strands,
wound around each other like a spiral. <p> DNA stores
the program that tells the cell how to make proteins which can do certain
necessary tasks to keep the cell alive and to enable it to do particular
jobs, like make new cells or repair damage. <p>What
enables DNA to store this information is the sequence of molecules called
bases which are attached to the side of the DNA. Bases on one strand pair
up with bases on the other strand. Life on earth uses four different
bases, encoded in blocks of three, to encode all the usual amino acids
from which we make proteins.
<p>
Particular sequences of DNA encode what are called
genes.
<p> <A NAME=bases></A> Q: How many DNA bases are there in a typical
organism?
<br> A: It depends, and varies widely (there is no such
thing as a typical organism). To encode a bacteria you might need a few
hundred thousand base pairs. Brewers yeast has about a million bases. A
human usually has about thirty-two thousand million. Some plants have more
than this. There is a theoretical limit to how few you need to run a
metabolism because there is a requirement for a minimum number of genes to
do the biochemistry required to keep something alive. Below this threshold
are viruses, which depend on using the metabolism from other organisms to
reproduce themselves.
<p>Q: What is a gene?<A
NAME=gene></A>
<br>
A: a gene is a sequence of DNA which stores the
construction information for the manufacture of a particular protein. A
given organism will have some genes in its DNA which are not present in
other organisms, but also have genes which are similar to genes in other
organisms.
<p><A NAME=humangenes></A>Q: how many
genes does a human have? <br>
A: about 30,000. Not
all of them are switched on and being used to instruct the manufacture of
proteins all the time. Some genes are small, and others are large. Not all
genes encode one protein... some encode a precursor peptide which is
chopped up or derivitised in different ways (for example, carbohydrate
molecules are stuck on them in a process called glycosylation) to produce
something distinctly different to what the gene itself encodes. A lot of
the immunoglobulins are "differentially spliced" to produce lots of
different proteins from one gene. <p>
<A NAME=protein></A>Q: What is a protein? <br>A: A protein
is a substance which is made according to the specifications of one gene
stored in the DNA. For each protein there are a range of possible variants
on a given gene, and small changes can have large effects on the correct
function of the protein.
<P>All proteins are made of
pretty much the same 20 subcomponents. The order in which these
subcomponents are strung together differs. The subcomponents are called
amino acids, and they are common to all carbon-based biological systems
that we know about.
<p>Different proteins have
different sequences, so they are shaped differently and can do different
structural or chemical tasks. Many of the proteins which do certain jobs
are called enzymes and they enable the chemistry of life to operate. Some
proteins dont do any chemistry that we know about, and mainly perform a
structural role, like stopping your skin from being saggy. <p>
Your hair is made of a protein called keratin. Your blood is red
because of a protein called haemoglobin. People who have a gut enzyme
called lactase can digest milk with lactose in it. Your tendons are full
of a protein called collagen. Some proteins do special jobs like repair
DNA damage. Some, like insulin, send signals from one part of the body to
another. Most enzymes have ludicrous names... the one most directly
responsible for incorporating carbon dioxide into plant sugars is called
ribulose-1,6-bisphosphate carboxylase. Egg white is full of a gooey clear
protein called albumin. Some proteins do amazingly specific, highly
complex jobs, some of these jobs involve specific manipulation of
subatomic particles, like hydrogen ions, or electrons. Usually they do
tasks at the molecular level, moving whole atoms or groups of atoms
arranged in a specific way. They are pretty remarkable things,
actually.
<p><A NAME=engineering></A>Q: What is
genetic engineering?<BR>A: DNA occurs in
animals, plants, fungi, bacteria, and even viruses (which aren't actually
alive). Since DNA is the same across almost all living things, and they
all encode proteins the same way in DNA sequences, DNA code from one
organism will theoretically do the same thing when put into another
organism and modify the biochemical behaviour of the recipient.
<P>Genetic engineers are paid to take DNA from certain
organisms and splice it into the DNA code of organisms where it was not
originally. Or, they take the original DNA and modify it so it makes a
protein which works differently.
<p>The tools used for genetic
engineering are usually proteins derived from bacteria, which can do
things like assemble individual bases into a sequence, or chop a DNA
strand at a particular place.
<p><A NAME=why></A>Q: Why are organisms being
genetically engineered?
<br>A: It varies. Sometimes it's for research purposes, since a researcher
can often figure out why people get certain inherited diseases by seeing
what genes do or dont work in certain ways, and engineering organisms like
mice with genetic changes is one way to do this. This gives valuable
medical information about things like cancer and birth defects or
susceptibility to certain diseases. <p> But mostly, it's about making
money. Companies will tell you they're trying to feed people or cure
diseases but make no mistake - those aims are secondary to their main
objectives, which are to make people dependant on their products, increase
their market share and increase shareholder value.<P>
Biotech companies engineer bacteria to make certain molecules, usually
proteins, which have some kind of commercial value, for example some
antibiotics. Insulin can be manufactured by engineered bacteria, which
prevents the need to extract it from dead pigs. <p>
Some companies are engineering
existing organisms so that pesticides don't kill them, or so that insects
don't eat them, or so that they grow really big really fast... there are
lots of modifications that are planned. There is no way they have a clue
about the long term impact of these organisms on the ecosystem.
<p>The main motivation for the biotech companies is that
they think they can make an astounding amount of money by making organisms
make molecules which are profitable. They use living organisms as
nanofabrication factories for specialised molecules, because living
organisms are very energy efficient at doing this.
<p><A NAME=genome></A>
Q: The human genome
project will give us the
sequence of all the DNA in a human being. Doesnt this mean we know all
about how a human being works?
<br>
A: No. <p>Knowing the sequence of all
the genes doesn't say anything about how they all work or how they all
interact. The genome project also only took DNA from a small number of
humans, so most varieties (alleles) of human genes are not
represented. Much of the sequence data originated from Craig Venter,
who, upon the
(incomplete) sequencing of the genome by Celera Genomics (which
he runs) used the data from his sequenced DNA to diagnose that
he had a lipid metabolism problem, for which he now takes
corrective medication. <p>Further, there are functions we
need to have which our genes don't encode, like the manufacture of folate,
which is made for us to a limited extent by bacteria in our intestines, so
in theory, to encode a complete human, it might help to include some of
these genes too. Human mitochondria have been sequenced for some time,
they were only forty thousand bases long, but they do very important jobs.
<p>Some of our metabolic pathways
are broken - we have, for example, some of the genes for the synthesis of
ascorbic acid but we can't actually make it ourselves, we have to get it
in our diet, by eating plants which make it.
<p><A NAME=junk></A>Q: What is junk
DNA? <br>
A: DNA which does not encode genes
which instruct the building of proteins. I think junk is really a poor
label, it simply means we don't know how to figure out what it
does. <p>It obviously plays a role in phosphate,
deoxyribose, purine and pyrimidine metabolism, since at the very least
this stuff had to be synthesised, and sits around behaving as a kind of
storehouse of these materials - if a cell dies or undergoes programmed
self-destruction (apoptosis) then all that noncoding DNA is made available
for incorporation as raw materials into other cells. It also plays a
role in DNA packing and maintaining telomere stability. It worries me that
some people are arrogant enough to call it junk DNA and are so readily
accepting of the recieved wisdom that simply because it doesn't encode a
gene or regulate protein expression, it has no role. Einstein said we only
use 10% of our brain but that doesn't mean that people who are missing 90%
of their brain (eg: car accident victims, television evangelists, for
instance) are fully functional. <p>I expect there
will never be a human which could be engineered so that there was no junk
DNA in its genome, or if it was so encoded, the human would be fragile...
robust systems have lots of redundancy, things you can damage without
serious consequences. This is, by the way, the reason organisms have what
is called ploidy - a number of copies of each gene. Humans are diploid (we
get one copy of each gene from mum and one from dad, making two copies),
some plants are triploid or tetraploid. It means you can have an error in
one copy but not be seriously affected because the other copy works
fine. <p>There are arguments about the role of junk
as a kind of protective agent amongst which the useful DNA can hide from
damage, or the junk can act as a physical scaffold for useful DNA. It has
been shown that it does have a role in packing DNA properly. The introns -
non coding parts - of some genes, which are spliced out before
transcription, intrinsically make it difficult for things like viruses to
simply chop out our genes and use them for their own purposes. So I
hesitate to assume that just because we don't know what it does, it's
useless.
<p><A NAME=examples></A>Q: What are
some
examples of products made from genetically engineered
organisms? <br>A: They're all over the
place. Enzymes in washing powder have been engineered so they last longer
in the
wash. This probably has unforseen consequences in terms of how long these
enzymes last, and what they do, when they hit marine life near ocean
sewage outfalls, for example. <p>A lot of antibiotics
are made by bacteria with entire suites of genes in them, which enable the
bacteria to make the precursors to the antibiotic, and the antibiotic
itself, from regular things which the bacteria can eat. These bacteria
aren't usually released into the environment, however. <p>
These days a lot of human foodstuffs are derived from plants with
non-indigenous genes in them. Some of these genes have never existed until
recently, notably the ones which degrade pesticides - mainly because these
pesticides didn't exist until recently. We don't know what these genes do
out there in the ecosystems into which they are placed.
<p><A NAME=whoasked></A>
Q: If we eat it, how come we were never asked about this sort of
stuff?<br>A:
Companies have been doing this pretty much without the permission of the
public, and the public are being kept pretty much in the dark about it by
the mainstream corporate media, whose sound-bite architecture doesn't
permit detailed complex information to be distributed to the public.
People are interested but the media fail in their task of informing the
public because the network bosses and TV moguls think it is more
profitable to fill up the bandwidth with inconsequential drivel like
olympics and sit-coms. <p>It is also totally obvious
that what is called western democracy is actually a mechanism to prevent
the public having a say. You are supposed to exercise your decision making
power only very narrowly, as a consumer in the supermarket. That the
public has a right to know, or even an interest in the biology of what
they eat, or even their own biology, is not even permitted onto the agenda
for discussion.
<p> <A NAME=mistakes></A> Q: Have
there been serious mistakes resultant from genetic
engineering?<br>
A: Yeah. They're just the
first in what history will reveal to be a string of stupid and preventable
screwups. The classical, and tragically stupid, example occurred around
1990. It'll take a little while to explain, it's complex... that's partly
why it happened, the complexity is subtle. <p>I
mentioned amino acids and proteins... well, one of the amino acids acids
we need is called tryptophan. You usually make it in your own body from a
precursor called chorismate. Some people dont make enough of it, so they
take it as a dietary supplement. <p>You could go to
all the trouble of using synthetic organic chemistry to make tryptophan,
but the reactions are complex, expensive and the yields are low. So
generally nobody does that. <p> Another way to make it
in a factory is to get a big vat full of nutrient and grow a certain
bacteria in it, a strain called Klebsiella, which happens to make a lot of
tryptophan. Usually you let the vat brew for a few days, then rupture all
the bacteria, and extract the tryptophan. Humans have been doing this
perfectly adequately and safely for decades. <p>We
know what all the genes are which make the proteins which turn chorismate
into tryptophan. Usually these genes are turned on and off in a regulated
manner by the organism which is making the tryptophan. This makes sense,
the organism doesnt make any more tryptophan than it needs, it allocates
its resources in an efficient way. The regulation mechanism involves a
stretch of DNA just before the genes which encode the proteins which make
tryptophan. This stretch of DNA is called a promoter, and is involved in
deciding wether or not a protein is going to be made. In klebsiella, the
promotors switch the tryptophan-making protein-manufacture machinery on or
off as needed. This sort of regulation goes on everywhere in all living
things.<p>In the early 1990s a petrochemicals
company called Showa-Denko reckoned that they could make a strain of
Klebsiella with all the regular tryptophan-making genes turned on all the
time - they replaced the usual promoters with ones which were turned on
continuously. This was so bacteria would make loads of tryptophan. It did
indeed make loads and loads of tryptophan. It also started making
something else, something rather unexpected.<p>Anyway, since the
tryptophan was manufactured in pretty much the
same way as it usually was, it was decided that no special tests be
performed on the end product, no labels need be put on the cans it was
sold in, and so off it went into general consumption. 36 people were
fatally poisoned. About 1500 now have permanent nerve poisoning, a
syndrome called eosinophilia-myalgia (EMS)... permanent serious muscle
pain and other problems. <p>So how did that
happen? <p>It turns out that in the engineered
klebsiella, the _precursor_ to tryptophan built up to such a high
concentration that it formed a dimer - that is, two precursor molecules
chemically bonded with each other, to form a molecule called
1-ethylidene-bis-L-tryptophan, or EBT for short. This dimer never occurs
in natural organisms, because the promoters switch production off when
concentration gets too high. If biochemists were trained in physical
chemistry they might have seen this coming, but physical chemistry in
living things is hideously complex, and biochemists aren't much trained in
physical chem, so they couldn't even begin to try and predict it. Physical
chemistry in dead things is pretty complex, too.
<p>EBT is chemically similar to tryptophan (it is just two
tryptophans bolted together, after all) so it came through with the
tryptophan in the extraction procedure, to about 0.5% contamination by
weight. Showa Denko settled out of court for a large sum of money. The
dead people are still dead, others EMS victims gradually die off as the
years roll on. <p>Tryptophan became a
restricted chemical after that. How can legislators call a molecule
restricted if it is a component of most of the proteins in every living
thing? What really should have been restricted is the freedom which
companies have to spread GM derivatives around the planet. <p>When I did
biochemistry/molecular genetics in 1996-1998, we were
told lots about how tryptophan is synthesised in cells and how it is
regulated, but not a peep about this screwup, which is a heck of a
cautionary tale.<p>
<p><A NAME=coffee></A>Q: So how is
this sort of thing going to effect my life - my coffee will taste the
same, won't it?
<P>
A: Nobody really knows. Probably not. I read recently that the genes
responsible for the synthesis of caffeine in the coffee plant (Arabica
robusta) has been identified and some biotech startup thinks there's money
to be made by turning that gene off and thereby producing a coffee bean
without caffeine in it, which in turn produces a decaffeinated coffee
which still has all the full caffeinated coffee flavour in it because the
other flavour molecules aren't lost (co-extracted) during the
solvent-based caffeine extraction procedure currently employed in
industry. <p>Apart from the zero-diversity problems
attendant to having zillions of hectares of identical GM arabica robusta
all over the world (the diversity of the coffee tree genome is already
pretty restricted) there is no mention of the possible biochemical
consequences of this engineering : if you turn off the gene which produces
the protein which transforms all the precursors to caffeine into actual
caffeine, then what happens to all that precursor? Does it build up to a
concentration at which it can biotransform into something poisonous to
humans or damaging to the surrounding environ? Does it influence the
kinetics of some other part of the plant's biochemistry which renders the
crop able or not able to do something else, for example will a GM caffeine
incapable plant make more dimethylxanthines instead (gotta do something
with all that xanthate precusor, if it can't make caffeine, the plant
might increase the synthesis of theobromine or theophylline, the latter of
which is toxic to some people). We aren't learning the necessary lessons,
we're keeping on making the same fucking stupid mistakes over and over
because we aren't learning to ask the questions which we should have asked
when we discovered we messed up the first time around.
<p><A NAME=misses></A>Q: Any near
misses?
<br>A: Absolutely. My god, this one 'll make you dirty your
pants, it's so scary. Again, it's a bit of a long story. <p>A German biotech firm engineered a
bacterium&nbsp; (again, Klebsiella, the particular subtype was called
planticula) to help dispose of rotting crop waste on farms. It happpened
that when it did this it also produced ethanol, which is in demand as a
fuel. <p>The engineered bacteria
was sent off to Oregon State University in the USA, to be tested. Usually
when labs test an organism they use sterile soil, basically it's normal
dirt which has been processed in such a way as there's nothing left alive
in it, which means all the variables are controlled, you don't have
earthworms or nematodes or fungi or whatever in the dirt to mess with your
results. But that means you're testing it in dirt which is totally
unrealistic compared to the dirt in which you typically grow plants in,
which is usually packed full of living things.
<p>Anyway a doctoral student named Michael Holmes thought
that testing this bacteria in sterile soil was senseless so he did the
test in various sorts of living soil with lots of organisms already in
it.<p>He found that every plant
put into the living soils with the engineered Klebsiella died. <p>
Why did this happen? It turns out that
the Klebsiella interfered with, and often killed, the mycorrhyzal fungi in
the dirt, which are responsible for making soil nutrients available so the
plant can absorb them in its roots. Plants are dependant on these soil
organisms to live. <p>Think
about it. The engineered Kleb was producing ethanol, the stuff&nbsp;
which,&nbsp; when you drink it in beer, makes you drunk and kills cells in
your liver and brain. Ethanol is a widely used biocidal agent, we usually
wiped down the benches with it in the&nbsp; lab where I used to do my
research, for this reason. Of COURSE it's gonna kill things in the soil,
including the plant roots too, if my experiences in plant biochem lab are
anything to go by. The experiment is easy enough to do - pour some ethyl
alcohol on the grass outside and come back in a few days, and it'll be
dead. Well, duh.<p>But it gets
astoundingly worse. <p>Suppose
this stuff had been tested in sterile soils, and given the OK by the EPA
(like the FDA did with tryptophan) to be released, in processed plant
waste, onto soil on farms throughout the world. You'd never stop it.&nbsp;
It would adapt to every treatment you'd throw at it. It would be
impossible to contain its spread. It would just distribute itself on
vehicle tyres, dust storms, the claws of birds which happened to land on
the soil. It would spread throughout the planet gradually resulting in the
eradication of agriculture and most the plant
kingdom as we know it.<p>(See: Suzuki, Dressel, "Naked Ape to Superspecies" p120-121, Allen
and Unwin) <p>If Holmes hadn't
done&nbsp; his experiments in real dirt, we'd never have known the effects
in living soils. The guy deserves a Nobel Prize for bringing these results
to light and averting the collapse of the civilised world, which is
entirely dependant on agriculture.<br>&nbsp;
<p><A NAME=aidsvaccine></A>Q: There's
a group in the
Netherlands who, as of May 2001, say they genetically engineered a strain
of live HIV which might be good as a vaccine against AIDS. What's your
take on this? <p>A: I
think I'd rather be shot than take this stuff. They've engineered the
virus so it's dependant on the presence of a chemical called doxycycline
to permit it to replicate. The theory is that they infect you with this
stuff and give you doxycycline and it gives you a very weak form of AIDS
for a few days, and then they stop giving you doxycycline and the
doxycycline-dependant virus dies out. During which time the immune system
learns to recognise the HIV virus and generate antibodies and white cell
defences to that virus. <p>&nbsp;The people who think live attenuated vaccines are useful as
vaccines fail to understand that they are dealing with a dynamically
adaptive, self-interested, evolving and replicating data construct - a
virus. Viral DNA and RNA replication is *intrinsically* error prone -
that's how HIV becomes specific for CD4+ T-cells and macrophages and
certain kinds of neurons, it's also how it generates escape mutants to
become immune to sodium phosphonoformate, and protease inhibitors, and
chain terminators (like AZT and ddI) and even to recently developed
error-inducing nucleotide analogues which are supposed to push the virus
over its error-catastrophe threshold. <p>
&nbsp;If you stick live AIDS into someone,
even if it's attenuated, it'll become virulent in the long term, period.
After all, you've put it on an evolutionary topography where the virus
will 1) benefit by not replicating any more of its own RNA than it has to
and 2) benefit by losing the gene or promoter which encodes its
controllability by doxycycline. Eventually there will be a variety of it
which *ignores* the presence of absence of doxycycline and replicates
anyway.
<p>For heaven's sake, viruses lose virulence genes when you passage them
in cell culture, *because* it's more efficient for the virus to do that in
the context in which it finds itself - a cell culture context where it
does not need to be virulent. Over a few generations of infecting cultured
cells in a sealed environment in which its every need is catered for, the
virus throws its virulence genes away because it doesn't need them, Any
virlogist with half a clue knows that.
<p><A NAME=similarity></A>Q: What is substantial similarity?
<br>A: It's a term which signifies that the GM food crop regulatory
authorities and legislators have absolutely no idea about molecular
genetics. They pass legislation which says "if a GM plant is substantially
similar to the natural plant, then they can be treated as if they are the
same."
<p>This is
absolute crap piled on top of arrogant stupidity. I guess it is to be
expected, since most of the people who write these laws are economists or
lawyers, business types who haven't the slightest idea about how real
living systems work.
<p> Ok, yes, technically, chimpanzees are substantially similar to
humans... mainly humans who write this kind of legislation. There are lots
of examples in nature where the tiniest little difference can have
massive, often fatal differences. <p>There's a protein I mentioned
earlier, haemoglobin. Its main job is to sit around in red blood cells,
pick up oxygen in the lungs and dump it in the other tissues. There are
two genes which encode the subcomponent proteins in haemoglobin. Regular
haemoglobin molecules float around independantly inside the red blood
cell, so the red blood cells can squeeze through tiny blood vessels,
called capillaries.
<p>Some people have a blood disorder called sickle cell anaemia. This
occurs because the amino acid sequence in the haemoglobin has changed
slightly, which in turn occurs because ONE DNA BASE has changed. The
consequence of this is that the haemoglobin molecules stick together, and
form rods, which turn red blood cells into a kind of stretched curved
donut shape, which stops them from going through capillaries easily, and
this starves your flesh of oxygen.
<p> At a DNA level you might be substantially similar, but at a functional
living being level you've got serious problems if this single base is
changed ... one base in 3 billion. Basically because you multiply that
error in ALL of your red cells.
<p>There's a load of other examples... genes which predispose you to
getting cancer... genes which, because they dont work, mean that you bleed
for days when you get a tiny cut... all substantially similar, but
nevertheless different to the usual version which most humans have.
<p><A NAME=legislation></A>Q: What sort of people are making the
legislative decisions about
GMOs? <br>A: I don't
know, but they aren't the people who use or understand the technology. I
went to a public forum at NSW state parliament in 1999 about this, sat and
listened to the suits at the front, and to the questions asked by the
journalists. I stood up and said, "Is there anyone in this room, aside
from me, who actually does molecular genetics, uses restriction enzymes,
can sequence and clone a gene, or has any idea how this genetic technology
works?" I was the only person, in a room with five hundred people in it,
who had ever actually gloved-up and gowned-up and done molecular
genetics.
<p>This isn't actually surprising. Molecular biology takes a while to
learn, it's hard stuff. Also most gene jockeys who have jobs are employed
by biotech firms, which would sack them instantly if they said anything
about what they do... non-disclosure agreements are a part of getting
employed. So they shut up. Most of the ones I've worked with don't
actually have a clue about the distributed interactivity of the ecosystem,
'cos they are confined to a narrow specialty. I can talk about this 'cos I
get paid to be a computer geek.
<p>Most journalists don't even know what are the right questions to ask.
<p> They focus on wether or not the GM crops are safe to eat. My bet is,
after it's been killed and processed and frozen and seasoned and oven
roasted, it's probably safe to eat, but really we just don't know until
some people die because of some wierdo interaction we didn't know about.
The Showa Denko lesson is there for the learning, if you look for it.
<p>Food safety is peripheral to the main questions, which are: Is it safe
to have this casually modified molecular software running our global food
supply? Is it stable for the next few million years? Is it diverse enough
to be robust? (If it crashes as often as most commercially available
software, we're in deep shit, soon). Should it be owned by a few large,
unaccountable, immortal transnational companies, who employ
biology-clueless accountants to decide about "how to manage" it for
maximum profit? <p>
Currently I think the respective answers are
no, no, no and no. I am unlikely to change this stance in the forseeable
future.
<p>The stake we should be interested
in is long-term survival, that is what you play for when you're playing
a game called Darwinian Selection. Species too stupid to realise this
are eventually edited from the gene pool. This is a fate for which I think
h.sapiens is a prime candidate.
<p>Besides which, we already HAVE safe, not-modified food plants, which
have a track record of centuries of safety. Let's eat 'em while we can
still get them.
<p><A NAME="flavr"></A>Q: What was the
flavr savr
tomato?<br>A: Tomatos
rot because there are genes which turn on when the tomato ripens, which
make enzymes which dissolve the structural components of the cells in the
tomato.<p>The idea was
that to make tomatos last longer on the supermarket shelf, you just turned
these genes off. Anyway this was done and it produced a tomato which was
more fragile than the ones already on the shelf. They were then used to
make tomato soup since they're easier to process than regular tomatos. I
don't know if they tasted any better. <p>
While we're on the subject of tomatos, the
ones we get look really red and juicy, and are firm as tennis balls, but
taste like wet cardboard. These were not genetically engineered to be that
way... farmers and consumers bred them that way. How?<p>
For years grocery
and supermarket
managers complained that soft, mushy tomatos (which also tasted good) were
not profitable. Shoppers would judge their tomato by the firmness and the
look of it. Tomatos which allocated their resources to making flavour
molecules, were mushy and were easily bruised and looked unattractive on
the shelves, so shoppers didn't buy them even if they probably tasted
good.<p>The call went
out, we want firmer tomatos. So tomato growers started to select strains
which were physically tougher. A plant which allocates resources to
structural strength is not allocating them to making itself tasty. Over
several decades we have arrived at a tomato which is optimised for
profitable supermarket distribution, is as red, firm and shiny as a
cricket ball and tastes about as good, too. They don't even go splat when
you drop them. We brought this on ourselves without GMOs.
<P> <A NAME="spidercow"></A>Q: There's a cow which has been engineered to make
spider silk in its milk udder. Is this a good idea?<BR>
A: Well, we don't know. It probably isn't going to help any calves the cow
might have, when they try and grow up drinking milk with spider silk proteins
dissolved in it. In any case, again, nobody is sure what this gene (fibroin)
will do in all the other cells in the cow, if it gets expressed; I'm yet to
hear wether the cow has immunologically reacted against the fibroin or its
derivatives. <P> Why is this being done? Well, it's for the fibre. Cows are
going to get a lot of modifications, I suspect, since that udder of theirs is
a convenient thing from which to extract all sorts of engineered protein
products, because the technology for it already exists (automated cow milking
machines). But, it's being plugged right into the nutrient supply of the new
calf. This isn't a very clever thing to do, I think. <P>
I heard in 2003, someone has engineered cows so they make more than twice
the normal amount of casein in their milk. They used multiple copies of
the normal cow genes
for casein, so it's the same two proteins beta-casein and kapa-casein,
which cows usually secrete into their milk, but the engineered cow makes 2
times more kappa-casein and 1.7 times more beta-casein - they're not in
their usual proportion. These cows also have a genetic marker for
resistance to an antibiotic engineered into them too, as an artefact of
the cell selection procedure used to select the individual engineered
cells from which these cows originate. It hasn't been mentioned if all the
cow's cells express proteins which destroy a particular antibiotic, but if
they do, and the cow gets a bacterial infection, there's at least one
antibiotic you can't use to help the cow recover from any infections it
might get, because its cells just destroy it. I'm sure veterinarians
aren't going to like that. <P>
Now, the cheesemakers are saying this casein overexpression is a great
idea, they get more cheese from milk, more money per cow, etc. But think
about it for a moment... by changing the promoters for the expression of
these casein genes, they have altered the animal's normal tissue-specific
allocation of amino acids. All animals have a daily amino-acid budget, and
these cows are now allocating a hell of a lot more of their amino acid
pool, to excretory casein synthesis than they normally would. In addition
they will be depleting their amino-acid pool most severely of the exact
same amino-acids which will now be used up in the process of making lots
of casein - not all amino-acids are depleted equally. Normal cows make as
much secretory casein as their body thinks is necessary, and these ones
have been engineered to make heaps, in an unregulated way. Are these cows
going to experience illness as a result of amino-acid deficiencies
elsewhere in their system as a result of placing all their resources into
their milk glands? Nobody knows yet.
<P>
It should also be noted here that since this animal has several copies of
casein engineered into it, that this animal is no longer totally a diploid
mammal any more - the ploidy for the casein genes is much higher than the
ploidy of the genes for the rest of the animal. Generally if you have
changes in ploidy you get odd changes in the physiology of the animal;
when humans get ploidy changes they exhibit things like Klinefelter's
syndrome or Turner's Syndrome - which are brough about by excessive copies
of things like the genes on X chromosomes.
<P>
<p><A NAME=weird></A>Q: What sort of weird GM things have you heard
of?<br>A: Someone's trying to develop blue roses. You can, from certain
research institutions, get hairless mice which faintly glow green in the
dark, they have been engineered with genes from bioluminescent organisms.
There's also a mouse which has been engineered with its
pigmentation synthesis genes placed under the control of the bacterial
<i>lac</i> operon, so it'll change the colour of its growing coat-hair
depending on wether or not you feed it a particular material (IPTG). I
imagine these sorts of things will eventually become available for sale,
and pollute our ecosystem even more than it is already, just because
someone thinks there's a buck to be made and no legislator will have the
nouse or guts to prevent it.
<p>Another whacky one is, someone has engineered potatos to glow in the
dark when they're in need of water (using the same luciferase genes, but
different promoters, to the ones spliced into the mouse mentioned above) .
Um, can't people just look at them and see if they're wilting, like we did
for a few thousand years? More recent examples of utterly idiotic GM
projects include engineering grass so it doesn't grow so fast, therefore
needs less frequent attention with a lawnmower (I'm not kidding... instead
of planting something other than grass, our solution to lawn maintenance
is evidently to engineer grass to be slow-growing... you're still going to
have to waste resources growing it and you'll still have to mow it!) -
and there's an Israeli chap engineering chickens to have no feathers. I
don't suppose it ever occurred to this guy that feathers actually do
useful things for chickens, like say, keep them warm,
and provide abrasion resistance, waterproofing, and so on? I imagine
someone will get the idea that it might be good to engineer humans to have
12 fingers, so they can type faster, play the piano better, etc - and when
it eventually happens it will never be asked why evolution decided, after
millions of years of testing, on five digits per hand.
<P> Just because we can do these sorts of things does not mean they're a
good idea. It concerns me that living organisms are being engineered to
suit the requirements of sometimes demonstrably stupid sales droids and
marketing analysts.
<p><A NAME=ecosys></A>Q: Can you give some examples of bad effects a GMO
might have in an ecosystem? <br>A: Yeah. There's a cotton crop you can get
with a bacterial enzyme engineered into it. This enzyme (from
Bacillus Thuringiensis) attacks the internal structure of insects, so when
the insects eat the plant, the enzyme attacks the insect, which kinda
dissolves into mush from the inside out, in a day or so. <P>This means
that the crop is protected, but it also means that the dead insect isn't
out there doing its particular job in the ecosystem. It might be that it
had other jobs like pollenating nearby plants, or becoming food for local
bird life. Obviously if it has dissolved into brown sludge from the inside
out, it can't perform those roles any more. Sometimes these roles are
critical. Say your engineered plants also slowly kill every bee in the
district... where will the beekeepers go? Where will the new saplings
germinate?
<p> There's an additional consequence to doing this - you set the scene
for the evolution of insect pests which are resistant to attack by this
enzyme. So over the years, the organic farmers who use bacillus
thuringiensis as a natural pesticide of last resort are going to find that
it doesn't work any more. And, in the very long term, the adapted insects
will just eat the engineered crop anyway, so the farmer will have to get
the same crop but engineered to have a different poison in it. <p>Some
additional things go wrong with the crop, like sometimes its leaves are
warped, or the toxin doesn't actually work against pest weevils (they have
resistance, maybe?), or the plant has very little foliage so it doesn't
grow very quickly, or the cotton bolls on it were shaped stragely and
yielded no fibre. Whatever the Bt gene was doing, we didn't completely
know about it. <P>
Here's some other examples; there's genes for various lectins implicated
in actually raising the susceptibility of potatos to sucking insects,
because these GM-introduced protein are thought to be responsible for
decreasing the amount of glycoalkaloids produced when expressed in
genetically engineered potatos, and glycoalkaloids are what potatos use
naturally to repel sucking insects. (See: Annals of Applied Biology Vol
140 p143). It's known also that when Pioneer-Hi-Bred engineered Soybeans
to express a methionine-rich Brazil nut protein in 1996, the protein was
later shown to cause allergies in the people eating it (the idea here was
to make the food more methionine-rich). There's various people also
engineering the genes controlling the process of synthesis for lignin in
trees, so they are more easily able to be processed into paper... who
knows what this modified lignin will turn into when the organisms
responsible for breaking it down try and eat it, or what structural
effects it will have on the trees growing it? (See Nature Biotechnology
Vol 20 p607).
<P>
By 2003 a gene encoding an enzyme called Cystatin has been inserted into
many of the world's banana crops. Cystatin originates in a totally
different plant, namely rice, and blocks the action of an enzyme called
cysteine proteinase. Cysteine proteinase chops up proteins which possess
an amino acid called cysteine. The idea behind this is that cystatin
expressed by engineered bananas prevents nematodes, which are a worm which
eats banana plants, from completing their life cycle by preventing the
nematodes from digesting the banana flesh (by blocking the nematode's
cysteine proteinase which is part of the way nematodes chop up banana
proteins during their digestion). Does anyone know if the engineered
inhibition of cysteine proteinase changes anything else, like the way we
digest bananas, or the function of the hundreds of kinds of bacteria in
our gut, or the way bananas run their own internal cysteine
proteinase biochemistry? What about cystatin... does it interfere with
anything else? What happens if all the nematodes die out where these
engineered banana crops are planted? What are we going to do if the
nematodes don't die out, but instead become resistant to the effects of
cystatin? What about all the other things which live on bananas... fungi,
bacteria ... what will cystatin do to them? <P>
<p>Carson wrote
Silent Spring what, thirty years ago? What happens when the only organism
which survives in an ecosystem is the one which has eliminated all the
neighbours with engineered molecular trickery?
<p>If you plant vast areas with the same
identical plant, you have a monoculture, and anything that damages it will
damage the entire crop because there is no variation. Diversity creates
robustness. If you have a crop with 5 strains of wheat, a frost might kill
some of it, a drought might kill some of it, a flood might kill some of
it, an insect might kill some of it, a fungus might kill some of it, but
any one of those will only kill 20% of your crop. A crop with one strain
of wheat is uniformly vulnerable, and that's exactly what the GM plants
are - pretty much genetically identical. <p>And - a field full of some
GM crop is a
field with no natural crop in it. So what happens when the planet is
planted with this? Where does the diversity of heirloom strains go? They
go extinct, that's where. Extinct is for a long, long time. Its software
we can't afford to lose.
<p><A NAME=heirloom></A>Q: Some
people say we've been modifying plants for generations and that GMOs are
no different. Is this correct? <br>
A: No. What we're doing is taking genes and
inserting them into organisms in which they did not evolve. Genes and
proteins do not come with an instruction manual. Suppose there is a strain
of wheat which has been selected over centuries for its resistance to
frost. The particular makeup of that plant is is full of genes which
evolved entirely in wheat, and is going to be more predictable in the long
term than say, a genetically modified wheat plant which has had a gene
from, say, a jellyfish engineered into it to improve frost resistance. We
have no way of knowing what the jellyfish gene will do in the metabolism
of the wheat, or in the ecosystem local to the wheat crop.... it evolved
in the ocean, after all. Who knows what it could do in the
paddocks?
<p><A NAME=paddocks></A>Q: what sort of
modifications are already
in the paddocks? <br>A:
I'm finding it hard to keep track of them all. A chap named
Herrera-Estrella from Mexico is engineering crops to tolerate droughts by
making them synthesise sugars (for instance, trehalose) which tend to make
it easier for the plant to retain water (this trick is widely practised in
a lot of natural succulent plants like the cacti). Yeasts will
ferment trehalose, so are we looking at accidentally
engineering the plant so that its relatively moist, sugary products rot
faster in storage silos?
<p>Tobacco is being engineered with proteins which enable the roots to
pump salt out of the plant, which enables the plant to grow in soils
otherwise rendered useless by salinity. I suspect this might be a good way
to engineer a salt-tolerant weed, but anyway, what *are* we growing
tobacco for - it causes millions of people to die painful deaths every
year, many of them become a drain on government resources when they're
busy being treated in hospital.&nbsp; Tobacco doesn't feed anyone except
the tobacco company shareholders.<p> But wait, there's more. Someone's
engineering cats so they are non-allergenic to humans... but there's no
discussion amongst the proponents that cats might be secreting their
allergenic protein for a good reason. Someone else is planning to engineer
bacteria that convert your sweat into pheromones. This isn't going to feed
anyone either.
<P>Some other bunch of people
are in the process of engineering cattle to be immune to trypanosomes,
which would have the undesirable long term effect that feral cattle in
Africa would undergo a population explosion in that country because
trypanosomiasis is one of the major things keeping them in check. But they
never talk about that scenario.
<p>I've heard of
engineered plants which lower the pH of the soil around them, which makes
it easier for them to extract phosphate ions from the dirt. Too bad if
you're a soil organism and you prefer not to have your environmental
acidity increased.
<p>Somewhere else rice has been engineered to contain more
precursors to vitamin A. It's been given away free to impoverished nations
supposedly to prevent blindness due to vitamin A deficiency. It's called
Golden Rice. It's causing some problems already. People aren't getting
visual defects from vitamin A deficiency like they used to but now they're
getting vitamin A toxicity, you only need about 33 milligrams of this per
day in your diet before you start to exhibit poisoning, it's a
lipid-soluble vitamin so it's not like Vitamin C any excess of which you
can excrete in your urine. The way to fix this is to eat less vitamin A by
eating less of the engineered rice, but uhhh, they can't do that, they
were offered it for free and planted all their fields with it and it's
their staple diet and they cant afford to buy rice from anywhere else.
Brilliant, not.
<p>There's potatos which
have been engineered to be resistant to various viruses, too, but I can't
see why in the long term the viruses won't adapt to the engineered crop,
as has been the experience with other pest organisms. I can't see why when
the spuds eventualy flower (as, the variety Lemhi Russet will do) they
won't spread this gene around amongst other spuds.
<P>I brew my own beer, and I have heard a rumour which I have not been
able to pin down concerning the engineered strains of yeast (saccharomyces
cerevisiae) used in commercial breweries. I don't know yet but it wouldn't
surpise me, yeast are an industrial workhorse and modified strains exist
in laboratories all over the world.
<p><A NAME="roundup"></A>Q: What's a
roundup ready crop? <BR> A: A crop which has been engineered with enzymes
which protect it
from being poisoned by glyphosate sodium, which is a plant poison and
widely used weedkiller. The company which has the patents on these plants
also owns the patents on the roundup herbicide. They engineer crops so
they cant be killed by glyphos, so you can spray a crop and it will only
kill the weeds.
<p><A NAME=glyphos></A>Q: What effect
do glyphosate resistance genes have on the ecosystem?
<br>A: Certainly their presence
encourages farmers to spray more glyphos on weed plants, which increases
the amount of residue in the overall crop, and also in the
soil.<p>If you look on
a drum of Monsanto Roundup, it says that "glyphosate breaks down on
contact with soil" ...which is not completely true. It doesn't all break
down instantly, which means that the label is misleading. It has a half
life of several months. So it builds up from repeated application. Check
the Merck Index entry for it. <p>It isn't known if these genes have
spread into other plants, but
it wouldn't be surprising, given that all lifeforms want to do is to
spread their genes around, after all, that's what they evolved to do. Do
we need weeds which are resistant to weedkiller? I think
not.
<p><A NAME=lies></A>Q: Some biotech
companies say that they didn't add genes in or take genes out, yet they
have modified the organism anyway, how does that work?
<br>A: Word-play. You can have all the
original genes, just driven under different promotors - genes which are
usually switched on or off are engineered to be permanently turned off or
on, or made to turn on/off under different circumstances to the ones under
which they used to turn on or off, and this has a significant effect on
the behaviour of the organism. Or, a gene is reinserted backwards so the
protein it encodes doesn't get made. The effects of this aren't known, but
you can say "we didn't take out or add any _genes_." Its like saying
glyphos breaks down on contact with soil. Its a half-truth, they rely on
people not to ask anything else. Usually it works because they don't know
what to ask.
<p><A NAME=whoknows></A>Q: There's an
idea that a protein will do only one task, and that since it only does
that task that it can be relied upon only to do that task and therefore is
a known quantity. Is this a fair statement?<p>A: No. All complex proteins
have an
evolutionary history. For example, we have a protein in our liver called
alcohol dehydrogenase, it breaks down ethanol (which is produced by our
gut bacteria). It happens that a protein in the lens of human eyes, called
crystallin, will also break down ethanol. This is probably because
crystallin evolved over billions of years from the same sequences of DNA
which encode alcohol dehydrogenase. Check out their genes, they're pretty
similar. Other proteins and enzymes probably used to do other jobs
millions of years ago, but we don't know what they did because we don't
even know how to look. Their behaviour is very context
dependant.
<p><A NAME=terminator></A>Q: There's
this stuff out there called terminator technology (TT). It is promoted
because it stops GM plants from propagating. Does it have any long-term
consequences for the stability of the global food supply?
<br>A: Yes. TT
makes crops produce seeds which can't germinate. It generally works by
inserting into the plant genome a gene encoding a protein which interferes
with germination (and there are several ways to do this) and putting this
protein under the control of a DNA promotor sequence which is activated
during seed germination. So the seed starts to germinate and then poisons
its own germination process.
<P> If the company which
makes the F1 (parent) crop suddenly can't provide new seeds to the farmers
each year, then the result is shortage of crops because the farmers can't
grow next years crops from the seeds they have already from the last years
harvest. The word "crippleware" applies here. Destabilising the software
which feeds you is uh, suicidally insane if you're interested in
long-term survival.<P>In the long term you can't guarantee a
mutation won't enable the
TT engineered crop (and any other genes it might have) to propagate,
because you're dealing with a living organism. _All_ it wants to do is
spread its genes around. Say a TT crop pollenates a nearby wild type crop.
Does that mean that the wild crop's progeny is now not going to germinate?
This is like a self-destruct sequence but with a distribution mechanism.
The epidemiological analogy with a plague disease is exact.
<p><A NAME=autonomy></A>Q: What about
terminator technology's effects on the autonomy of farmers?
<br>A: it induces dependancy on the GM
crop because farmers can't grow their crop from seeds they might have
adapted to their particular environment over decades. They become
dependant on an agribusiness co for their annual seed supply, for which
they pay a lot of money, and they used to get it for free.
<p><A NAME=exorcist></A>Q: There's a new technology (2002) called Exorcist.
How does it work and does it really mean you can have a GM but GM-free plant?
<br>A: Supposing you had modified a plant genome to include a transgene
like, say, one which encoded a protein which made the GM plant herbicide
resistant.. Once that gene has been transcribed into mRNA and the
protein has been produced, the GM technology has done its work, but
after that, the "Exorcist" is a neat way of chopping that gene out
of the plant's genome - in fact it will chop the transgene out, and also
most of the DNA which has been spliced into the plant genome to enable
the Exorcist mechanism to work.
<P>
Naturally, Exorcist itself is a genetic modification which leaves
traces of itself behind after it has done its work (which includes chopping
itself out of the genome of the modified plant), and these traces remain
both in the modified plant genomic material. Also, the chopped-out
sections encoding foreign genes are not reliably destroyed, they sometimes
remain after excision, floating around in the cell, doing whatever it is
they do when they're chopped out (which isn't known).
<P>
The "Exorcist" protein is called Cre, which is actually a (bacterial) virus
recombinase enzyme which chops out anything between two specific DNA
sequences (called loxP, 34 bases long) then re-joins the cut loxP ends,
between which the rest of the GM DNA is deliberately placed.
An engineered-in recognition sequence remains in the genome wherever
it was initially placed, because the two of them initially present
are not completely chopped out.
<P>
Once the Exorcist, its promotor section, and the other modified genes under
their control have done their work, you'll *STILL* have a modified plant,
the metabolism of which was doing engineered processes during the period
when the intended-for-removal transgenic gene, and its protein were still
there in the plant cell, doing whatever nonstandard biochemistry
they were doing (rather like a worn sock is still a worn sock even though
you've taken your foot out of it).
<P>
You might have much less of a chance of identifying that it was a modified
plant. If there was a remnant loxP site there, which didn't exist in the
wild-type plant, you'd be able to say "this is a modified plant." However,
if there was such a loxP site in the wild-type plant, you'd be dealing with
an organism which would behave unpredictably when engineered with the
Exorcist system since the Cre protein would probably make an attempt at
chopping out DNA which just happened to fit Cre's recognition requirement,
but you couldn't say definately the plant had this loxP site due to
engineering or not if you didn't know it was engineered... because the
transgenes have been chopped out and might not remain in a condition which
a PCR search could recognise.
<P> We don't know the recognition error rates for the Cre recombinase, nor
what else it might do in organisms where it didn't evolve, nor wether the
loxP sequences Cre works on also occur naturally elsewhere in the plant to
be engineered. To me, having a foreign recombinase running around in your
plant's genetic material, chopping-out whatever it happens to find between
the required sequences, is a brilliant way to destabilise the genome of
the organism. It might be worth asking, too, why develop a means to chop
out an engineered gene, if these things we're engineering in there in the
first place are supposedly safe? Doesn't it seem like Exorcist is a fix-up
for a mess we should not have created in the first place?
<P>There's someone else out there saying that if you do engineering on the
DNA of the chloroplasts in plants (the photosynthetic sub-component of
plant cells) that it's ok since that DNA can't spread ... well, again,
even if you have engineered the plant chloroplasts to behave differently
for few weeks, the effects of those engineered chloroplasts can remain for
a very long time. I think the no-spread claim is dubious
anyway, since chloroplasts and mitochondria have to be passed down the
generations along with normal nuclear material, so if the plants with
engineered chloroplasts can reproduce, their chloroplasts probably will
find a way to do so too.
<p><A NAME=starving></A>Q: Are
genetically modified crops going to feed the starving
millions?<p>A: No. This
is because the starving millions don't have the money to pay the
agribusinesses for the privelage of using them. Simple and callous as
that. This is peripheral to the question of wether we need more people on
a planet with six billion humans on it, which I think we definately do
not. Or the question of where to get the hydrocarbons and synthetic
fertilisers to run our mechanised
mono-agriculture for the next century. Or the question of where to get
land to
grow enough crops to feed so many people. <p>
Did the last green revolution feed everyone? Well, actually, no. <p>If
there is a plague organism on this planet, we're it. We need distributed
immunocontraception. Maybe genetic engineering will provide that in one
form or another. If history is any guide, it will happen by accident.
Probably something stupid like we woke up to the sudden realisation that
we engineered all our food crops to die out after one season with
terminator technology and planted it everywhere so the wild types pretty
much became extinct, creating widespread famine. Sheer genius.
<p><A NAME=immuno></A>Q: Are
genetically modified organisms going to eradicate disease?
<p>A: No.
<P>Problems of resistance aside, enough people won't be able to get access
to things like engineered vaccines, because they won't be able to afford
them, so there will be persistent reservoir populations of pathogenic
organisms in hosts, and probably resistant ones evolving everywhere. <P>
Similarly, many diseases which are inborn errors of metabolism and which
dont have many sufferers or a sexy media profile, will largely lose out in
the competition for research funds.
We've already got one GMO which _causes_ a disease (vitamin A poisoning,
see above).
<p>There are some GM crops which have
in them proteins from disease causing organisms, and the idea here is that
people eat these crops, and their immune system learns to recognise the
pathogen protein, so they get immunity to that disease. I think that's a
good idea except the disease organism only needs to slightly change and
the immune system won't recognise it, necessitating a new release of a
newly modified crop.
<P>
The crops are often modified with no consideration about how the plants
are processed in the societies where they are eaten : someone released a
potato with a gene encoding a bacterial protein from a disease-causing
bacteria in it, but since the locals always cooked their potatoes before
eating them, the protein was denatured by heat before the immune system
ever got a change to recognise it. OF COURSE they did. Potato rinds are
poisonous, they contain things like prussic acid. You yourself probably
don't eat potatos raw either.
<P> Again we dont know what viral proteins will do in food crops, for
reasons I already mentioned. In any case, some companies think this is a
bad idea because they make money out of selling cures, and this sort of
prevention strategy is bad for their profitability.
<p><A NAME=idiots></A>Q: Universities
are the main institutions where molecular biologists are trained. Do
university level courses have any components which inform young scientists
about the long term consequences of molecular modification?
<br>A: Universities are not places
where the molecular biologists of the future are informed of the
consequences of their interference with the genomes of organisms. They are
places where you are trained to use the tools, but not to have any
understanding of the consequences of application of those tools. It is the
same as it was with training people in the 1930s to synthesise pesticides,
or hormones, which turned out to be oestrogen analogues which induced
unusual vaginal cancers and male mammal infertility decades later at
parts-per-million concentration and which we only became aware of in the
1960s and 1970s.
<p>Modification of organisms is something which doesnt go away, once
you release an organism it stays released, and uaully evolves into
something else. Australia has a history of this... feral rabbits, foxes,
cats, birds, grasses, trees, and to a significant extent, humans who did
not evolve locally. Australia is never going to be rid of them and they
aren't even genetically modified. Our successes with smallpox and prickly
pear are aberrations.
<p><A NAME=freesoft></A>Q: There is a concept called "free software" - how
does that tie into genetic modification? <br>A: Living organisms run
molecular transformation programs which are encoded in their DNA, and
executed by proteins. This molecular information, which is actually
"software" is free... it is available to benefit all organisms. For
example, you have three billion base-pairs of DNA in each of your cells,
and this is the software which tells them how to run. You inherit this
software from your parents, for free - they both contribute to your genome
and when they concieve you are effectively contributing their working code
to a collaborative software development project - you. They donate this
code without copyrights attached to it, and you as a human being don't
have to pay them a license fee for running their code in your metabolism.
There are no laws against you giving your code to other people - once
people reach a certain age they are legally allowed to share their genomic
data to whomever they choose, provided the other party consents to share
as well. Currently there is no law against you sequencing parts or all of
your own DNA. The only things which stand between you and modifying your
own DNA are technical hindrances, such as, how good are you at molecular
biology lab technique. <P>
Lots of agribiotech businesses take this kind of software from say, a
plant, modify it slightly and then claim the entire plant as theirs. This
is, technically, on most electronic platforms, software piracy. It is
exactly like micro$oft taking an open standard and modifying it so it
becomes proprietary to them. <p>The planetary genome should remain free
software. It is too important to have it any other way. I recommend a look
at <a href-"http://www.gnu.org"> GNU.org </A> for some essays about Free
Software. Stallman's comments about electronic data apply very much to
biological data.
<p><A NAME=goodstuff></A>
<BR> You complain a lot about GM, do you think
there's anything good about it?<P>
Sure. DNA vaccination is a very good thing, so far, though it has
helped the human population explode. Recombinant insulin is a good thing,
so far, and there are a lot of diabetics alive today who would otherwise
be dead (the pigs from which insulin used to be extracted are probably
still processed into bacon and pork roasts, however, so they have not been
so lucky). I think these are examples of what good there is to be had from
GM technology. Provided everyone is being fed adequately, and the number
of humans on earth isn't adversely affecting the ecosystem, these sorts of
life-preserving and life-extending things are a really good idea. The
food-and-population problems are not going to be solved by GM technology,
they're social problems, artefacts of how our corporate-run society is
operated.
<P> I think cloning humans is sort of pointless, since it already happens
in nature to some extent (homozygotic twins). It's certainly cheaper and
easier, at the moment anyway, to make humans the same way we have been
making them for several hundred thousand years. If it is applied on a
large scale to animals which currently reproduce sexually, we'll have the
same monoculture problem we have with a lot of plants, which is, they're
genetically all the same and hence all vulnerable to the same
diseases. (Bananas and coffee plants are examples of plants with
restricted variety because mostly they're clones - they need specialised
attention and things like fungicides and pesticides frequently applied.)
<P> The cloning mostly happening at the moment is from somatic cells,
which are damaged. Cloning will work when expeimenters begin with fresh
embryonic stem cells. People are now preserving their kids stem cells at
birth.
<P> Now, on the other hand if I could clone my own organs, that would be
kind of useful, but I expect that organ cloning is going to give rise to a
new class of individual in society - the more-or-less-immortals, who can
afford a couple of million bucks for a new lungs, livers, hearts, spleens,
skins, and other replacable organs every few decades. Does the rest of
society really want sly corporate CEOs and government dictators and so on
to live longer than they do already?
<p>I can think of a pile of modifications I'd like to try on myself. More
resources allocated to things like free radical scavenging, DNA error
correction, cytochrome P450 optimisation to degrade the new and wierd
poisons I absorb because I live in an industrial society. An immune system
which was better at spotting metaplastic cells before they became tumors.
Ability to synthesise my own vitamin C and folate and essential amino and
fatty acids. More melanocytes so I don't get sunburnt so easily. CNS
neurons which could metabolise lipids (they currently can only metabolise
ketones and glucose) for energy. That's molecular stuff. I don't know if
any of it would work, or perhaps drastically skew my metabolic resource
allocation so I died.
<p>I caught myself thinking the other day that I could modify my visual
pigment, rhodopsin, so I could see shorter or longer wavelength photons
that is, see in the ultraviolet or infrared parts of the spectrum. But
there are problems... - as with all the preceding screwups, I cannot just
modify one gene and expect it to work. If I modified it so I could detect
infrared, I'd have to have my eyes located somewhere other than in a big
skull full of metabolically active (and therefore very warm) brains (on
stalks, maybe?!) otherwise I'd just percieve a blank wall of the same
temperature because of all the waste heat being dumped into my eyeballs.
If I had visual pigment which could detect short wavelength radiation, how
is it going to get through my cornea and aqueous humour, which absorb in
the UV to a considerable extent? I'd need to do an awful lot of serious
and extensive modification to my basic embryology and biochemistry to do
these things.
<p>With some of these modifications we could live a very long time,
however, currently I do not think the long term consequnces of my being
able to live to 190 years of age are being planned for in the social
infrastructure sense. It means I would consume lots more food, energy,
resources; more of the disposable, designed-to-break junk which is sold to
us by profiteering corporations. I'd rather die
than live 190 years of wage slavery.
<p>At the organ level, how about otoliths which
regenerate so my hearing doesn't degrade? No loss of skin's ability to
synthesise collagen so I don't get saggy as I age? What about a new set of
natural teeth every thirty years? Nerves which correctly knit when
severed?<p>What about things like
heavy structural
modifications ... redundant fingers, redundant organs, backs which aren't
so prone to blowing a herniated disc, nerves routed away from impact
sensitive locations, more anastamosed arteries. Bigger pelves to enable
less traumatic delivery of neonates with bigger heads and brains? Bigger
brains are metabolically costly to run, is that a good idea? Brains which
are optimised for certain abilities... are we engineering a species which
consists of people so standardised for obediently working in an office
environment that we lose the philosophers, the radicals, the
visionaries?
<p>(I
wonder if we're not breeding that civil disobedience out of ourselves
already.)
<p>I do not think these sorts of
things should be inflicted upon neonates. Maybe if you could prevent a
child from suffering some kind of genetically inherited disorder, you
might want to do that. I do not think that interfering with the
neurochemical or developmental architecture of our brains is likely to be
optimal for us in the long term, simply because the direction this will
take will fit the social whim of the day... we shouldn't try to engineer
humans to fit some trendy social model, or the diversity which we
absolutely depend on to run our social organism will go away. People
conventionally considered stupid or ugly or insane have contributed to
what we call the human experience.
<p><I can forsee a day when some person needs a
gene in their body modified and they purchase the modification and it
becomes integrated in all of their cells including their gametes. This
would mean that their offspring has a good chance of expressing the new
gene, and that the company which produced that gene would then start
asking for license fees from any offspring who happened to inherit that
gene. The courts would, in their infinite stupidity, probably grant the
company the right to prosecute the person for having the temerity to run
that part of their metabolism without paying the company for it. I'm glad
I'm freeware, but then I live in a body with operator-friendly genes in
it. Maybe if I had a choice between, say, being freeware and paying for a
gene which meant I grew up to be a normal height instead of being an
achondroplastic dwarf, I'd dance with the devil, sign and pay up and cop
the gene which gave me socially normal abilities. Where would the
inspirational artwork of VanGogh or the writings of Helen Keller or
Lorenzo Milam come from in a world without genetic difficulties or
diseases to overcome? Is this a part of the human experience we should
lose? This is something for the sufferers to tell us.
<p>
None of us asked for the bodies we
are born in or the brains in which our personalities operate. Neither will
any humans who grow up to discover that they've had their genome tinkered
with. Hopefully they won't curse us for giving them a gene which was
fashionable ten years ago but which is now though of as a social stigma.
Would male pattern baldness become a thing sported proudly, which says "I
run wild type human DNA - a bunch of software proven stable over thousands
of years"?
<p>Every
conception is an experiment in applied embryology and, as gynaecologists
will tell you, nature is the ultimate eugenicist - lots of embryos are
spontaneously aborted, some before they get out of the first trimester,
many of these are just intrinsically not viable at a molecular biology
level, something went awry with some serious part of the developmental
process. It won't be very different with germinal modifications. I'd tend
to not tinker with crucial things I don't understand. I hope biotech firms
learn this posture before they rob us of our own
indentities.<p>Q:
sheesh, can I go now? <br>A: Certainly.<br><a
href="mailto:predator@cat.org.au">&lt;predator&gt;</a>
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